What have I been doing, oh yeah...working. Well, I found this: www.moonfruit.com. It's got a site building tool that is flash, all flash, big flash, need a T1 line here. Interesting sites, sometimes crash the compy. The question is how to do a webring with a flash built site. And of course the other question is how accessible is an all flash site for text based browsers, ie non flash. I imagine it might pose some difficulties.